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Friday, September 30, 2016

Just by asking this question this way you loose the root. The appearance of that is clearly clear. The world is fucked up. It's not the governments even, it's human nature. You see someone hurt me, I am extremely capable being utterly intelligent but I am here signaling and no one hears so what do I do? That's so simple right? I don't know what to do. I am intelligent and capable. I try with CIA I try with FBI I try with NSA being true natural born quantum cryptologist and I have no response so what do I do? I become violent. No one gives me education I have zero chance to meet another intelligent better to put my brain into place they I need do I contain my anger and listen to imbeciles telling me I gotta kill myself to actually get heard. Oooooh that's now that's it I got it. You did right? I hope you did. I myself I only want to live the life with Allah, I love Allah, he teaches me my value while I am alive you see he or she rather she oh my goodness Allah is she? cares but am I value? That's it. Can I take a decision to kill myself for the name of God killing innocent who may had been my beloved child? Who are they to decide? Who have them the right? Like circumstances. Gun dons. We gotta kill gun dons. That's what we gotta do, sons.
On the other hand you see some children you say you want to kill because they has just no value just stupid unneeded scam reproducing disfunction and violence. That's tour ISIS. But then you say hey I had been molested stolen from in a really bad way shut up in a really bad way by those who attempted to steal from me and hey they are like “mommy with a kid” and the law doesn't help who is gonna revenge for me? Die you bitches you don't deserve to live. That's your ISIS minus connection to gun dons.
Islam created ISIS by its various doctrines, which most Muslims ignore, but a few did not, including that we all should imitate Muhammed’s own actions, that the words in the Koran must be obeyed now (including that apostates be killed), that there should be no separation of power between mosque and state, that Muhammed’s rule (i.e. a dictatorship) should be duplicated now, etc.
To embrace the modern world requires reforming Islam. This can be done by indirection, as in Turkey and Indonesia where unfavorable doctrines are ignored, or it can be done directly, which some modern Muslim theologians in the west are trying to do.
ISIS is the result of not doing this. Islam has always had these strains, violently put down by those in power, or co-opted, or ignored. When there is a power vacuum they emerge in force. Most Muslims in the world of course do not want to live the way Muslims did in the 700s, but absent a reformation this will occur again and again.
Thus when the US destroyed the only central power source in Iraq, it emerged as Al Queda in Iraq and later took the name ISIS, also moving into Syria when the civil war created a power vacuum there, too.
Germany in Weimar days had a related problem: the population was divided, and the centrists who wanted liberal democracy were not the majority. Until a country has a decent majority that wants it, and is willing to die and fight for it, extremists will cause havoc.
So the US was the short-term cause of the power vacuum by destroying Saddam’s army and decommisioning it. But Iraq had no majority centrists willing to fight and die to hold it together; instead Kurds hate Arabs (and Turkmen), Shiites hate Sunni (and Yazidis, Mandans, etc.), pro-Iranian Saadists hate secularists, etc. The same situation exists in Syria.
But the US did not create this disunity, nor could it end it, nor did it create Muslim theology, nor is it the cause of the failure of Arabs to be willing to fight and die for democracy.
Yes TOTALLY and willingy. Beliving in that Bush was stupid and naive enough to not see consequences is nonsense. They have planned everything. US government makes at least 100 year plans. They use these tool terrorist puppets to weaken middle east and have whatever they want.
Currently US supports another terrorist group directly which is PYD. They are same as PKK. Does PKK and ISIS have any difference? Not at all
Also i don't see anyone mentioning that invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan lead over 2 million civilian murder. Moreover they have raped tortured millions. And what happens to relatives of these poor people? If US have left middle east alone none of these terrorist groups could have become real.
They also give logistic and monetary and weaponry support to these groups Not only US but it's allies in EUROPE as well
Look PKK and see US support to them. PKK is the biggest problem of Turkey and they keep supporting them internationally.
Also one of the objective of the ISIS is clearing area then leaving them to PKK terrorists.
What is now called ISIS was founded in 1999 by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the same Zarqawi who was killed in 2006 by US Forces in Iraq. At that time it was know as Al-Qaeda in Iraq or AQI. By 2009-2010 what was left AQI or then known as Islamic State of Iraq or ISI went to Syria so as not to be completely destroyed by US Forces. The outbreak of the Arab Spring in Syria in 2011 started the Syrian civil war gave rise to what is now known as ISIS. It can be argued that by leaving Iraq by the US at the end of 2011, ISIS was able to go back into Iraq and gain more power. It can also be argued that the failed intervention by the US in Libya gave ISIS more weapons and power.

So, clearly, according to the geniuses here on Quora, the USA is responsible for ISIS and EVERY other thing that has gone wrong in the Middle East for the last, what 100 years? The Middle East has always been a very happy place, where everyone got along just fine and there was no turmoil at all until the USA got involved. Now, what sort of idiot thinks that? The USA is not perfect, by any means, but to try to blame the USA for all of the problems in the Middle East is just, well, there is no way to even describe such foolishness. I guess that the USA was responsible for the Crusades, even though it had not yet been formed until over 500 years later. Saddam Hussein was a great guy, and the only problem with him was that the USA decided to attack him after he attacked and invaded other countries and was trying to develop nuclear weapons to exterminate the Jews and take over all of the Middle East. I guess that you geniuses would have preferred that the USA just stay out of it and allow Saddam to develop his nuclear weapons and that Israel should not have attacked the facility that was developing such weapons. Yep, Saddam Hussein with nuclear weapons and other WMD’s in the Middle East, I’m sure that most of you wish that the USA had just stayed out of it and let him go forward and have those weapons. Yep, the USA should have just stayed out of it entirely and left you all alone to deal with Saddam and his nuclear weapons and other WMDs. The world would surely be a much better place right now, and the Middle East would be like Nirvana. That damned Bush just screwed up all of that Peace and Harmony that The Middle East had enjoyed for thousands of years.
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U.S. Foreign Policy gave rise to ISIS. The pullout of Iraq was actually a kicked out. So, Iraq is partially responsible for the rise of this terrorist group. After the mission accomplished of destroying Libya, some of the terrorists moved to Syria. Some time in 2014, these terrorists from Syria and the leftovers of al-Zarqawi’s terror group joined hands. And we have that famous Toyota trucks scene in summer of 2014. Introducing ISIS to the world.
The “elephant in the room” is President Obama’s decision to withdraw US troops from Iraq for purely political purposes. This resulted in the rise of ISIS.Without an iota of doubt " YES" but How? Through covert means to fight it's war by proxy. This mind less organisation was created financed and armed by making use of fault lines among Muslims. Thomas L Friedman written in NYT's column" America does not want war with Islam but wants war within Islam" Is not it enough or I further substantiate my answe?
  • No, the Illuminanti did. The future New World Order is in control now. They control all world events, wars, financial collapes, and overthrow of governments. Ever hear of the Rothschild family? Well they own 90% of all the world banks including the U.S Federal Reserve. And you thought you were a real citizen in your country.
  • ISIS is created out of the other Islamist movmeents such as Al Queda and Boko Haram.  The fact is there is a pervasive and global death cult in Sunni Islam and ISIS is just ONE such expression of that.
    We can’t take the responsibility away from the greater Islamic world.
    Now,  with the collapse of Iraq and then Assad of Syria also lost power it did create an environment for a very thuggish element to enter.  The US can accept a good bit of responsibility for Iraq.  But not Syria.
    So without ISIS or some expression of extreme fundamentalist Islam  there probably would have been crime organizations step in and set up house.
  • No, the US did not create ISIS. They created themselves, largely on the basis of the lie that Shrub II used to invade Iraq, the subsequent bungling of both the elective war and the so-called nation building that ensued. Obama wanted to end the war and the occupation, but he has found out that the forces of death and destruction are very powerful and well outside the reach of a community organizer. Something similar, albeit on a much smaller scale, is happening in Chicago, much to Obama's dismay.
    Nobody knows why the US started, and continues to maintain all of this warmaking. Obviously, our military toy industry has gained financially from the mayhem, and the MIC is owned by politically connected insiders, who have demonstrated since at least Vietnam, that they have a multi-generational power over the warlike direction that our country is taking.
    The American population will continue paying for all of this war making, since the majority seems to have concluded, roughly summarizing, that war taxes are a relatively small price to pay for the war being waged abroad, not at home.
    Still, the question, why elective war and not elective peace, has not been answered at all by the politically correct speech which dominates the online discussion in the country. Note that PC speech is not just about which bathroom people use, it's also about the desirability of war making and the illogical justification for that war making. PC speech is one of the divisive tools that separate people from agreeing on what the US should be doing.
    People pretend to knowledge about evolution, but in the world of social engineering for different purposes, the most powerful tool of our corrupt leadership is divide and conquer. Again, social engineering covers way more topics than, say, gender studies.
    Anyhow, with the chaos in the ME, ISIS has found a fertile ground to grow in. Notice how our vaunted war machine has been effectively stymied, although there is some indication that, after clearing; holding and building could be the avenue for peace, economic freedom and order in the ME. When our civilian and military leaders tell each other the truth about the facts on the ground, and when they agree on a logical solution to those pressing problems, then maybe they will find and implement a solution.
    In the meantime, ISIS will work assiduously to finish the stated goal of Bin Laden, who sought to destroy our country, which is probably the best thing that humanity has created so far. Our next President may brag about their experience or their secret plans, but they will find that their words have no power, unless they describe reality accurately, and institute actions to help bring about world peace.
    Hard not to close with a sarcastic remark:
  • We merely provided the environment and many weapons and personnel unwittingly in our idiot policy in Lybia championed by the supposed most qualified to be president, having failed as Sec State.
    ISIS was a fringe group with few followers in Iraq. But the Arab Spring turned to nightmare by US in Lybia proved a better recruiting environment including many rebels trained and armed by us.
    Proof once again that our huge and massively beyond our defense needs military merely gets us thinking we can do whatever we want, turning hope into disaster and a world more hateful toward us.
  • of course, the USA did not create ISIS, which is an expression of Saudi Wahhabi Islam and received start up money from the Saudis. ISIS uses the same strategy modeled by Mohammed in his conquest of Arabia, albeit with modern weapons. Muslims have been waging exactly the kind of merciless war ISIS is waging now since Mohammed led them in attacks on caravans and cities 700 years ago.
    This is how Muslims conquered the Middle East, by beheading the men and taking the women as sex slaves. It’s how they conquered a big chunk of India. It’s how they swept across North Africa into Spain. It’s how they conquered parts of Italy and all of Sicily. It’s how they murdered their way through the Byzantine Empire into the Balkans.
    And, this, is how the Muslims think they can conquer the world.
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