It is called cause and effect, for every action there is a reaction, some things are clearly foreseeable, some take a bit more knowledge of the beast, forsight and psychology. When Germany lost the war, many people still ask why did we pay to rebuild it, the fact is that we did not want Communism or any other questionable entity to move on in. It would cost less to rebuild and convert them our way than fight them again. Bush was not a military strategist, obviously neither were his advisors, that had vague knowledge of their opponents and their mind set. We were fortunate years ago to have military minds like Patton, McArthur and presidents who were war heros, they had experience and knowledge that they put to use. Had we educated ourselves better on just how our enemy thinks and feel as well as their culture, many reactions or effects of our actions would clearly be anticipated. Just like you as a normal citizen getting in a fight at a club or bar or anywhere, if you are fighting with any random white guy, you can usually expect it to end there, if you are fighting with a gang member, or member of any radical family, culture or group, it is likely retaliation by one or more of the group is inevitable. This with out much thought can be anticipated, but when you sit behind a desk, telling others what to do, you have no idea how it is really done, nor can you really anticipate anything.
US Middle East policy in the last decades is criminally stupid.
It is now obvious that the societies in the Middle East are not developed enough for a democratic governance (except Israel) - and this should have been obvious to experts long before taking many of the stupid decisions.
The only stable form of government in the Middle East countries is some form of dictatorship. And it's really simple- you can have either a secular dictator, a religious dictator, or a chaos created by islamic psychopaths.
Obviously, having a secular dictator is by far the best choice. Why, having the best option already available, US decided to fix something that wasn't broke, is a mystery.
Iraq under Saddam and Syria under Assad were stable countries.
The overall situation in Syria and Iraq today is - without any doubt - far worse, compared to the time when dictators ruled.
There isn’t even a single human being in Syria that feels better today compared to 3–4 years ago. There isn’t even a single human being in Iraq that feels better today compared to the period before the US invasion.
When Saddam invaded Kuwait, Bush-senior was clever enough just to kick his ass out and stop there. Not so for W., the boy was obviously not the smartest one in the family.
Yeah, but not an intentional creation. The issue was persisting in the region for some time then, but even if the Bush administration had a good intention or not, the fact rests about the invasion that the Bush administration had failed in formulating a plan for the aftermath and that has made a mark in human history. The administration failed to see the after effects of the war and didn't adopt counter measures. They found Iraq under some leadership and it's not up to me to say whether it was good or bad but they left Iraq with no leader, law or order. This was a prime factor in creating the radical group we now call ISIS.
Yes and no. I read in an article that daesh have been around since the 1940s in some form, but USA gave it a power vacuum to grow in. Most middle estern countries seems to need a unifying force to hold them together, a popular king and/or a huge security apparatus. When USA got rid of all the soldiers, secret police anat, they took their skills else were.
Another country just dropped a shit load of bombs on your house your mom dad brother and sister are all over the room blown into a million pieces you don't have a house you can't go to anyone for help you have to survive there is a couple guys with guns near where you live and they are trying to kill the bad guys who blew up your family so you decide you want to join them.
This is what happened 15 years ago we dropped bombs on the fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers grandparents etc of these Iraqi kids. The kids saw all their loved ones blown to pieces by the god ole USA. The kids are now grown and want revenge they have nothing else no school, no food, no cloth, no family, and no home, there is good ole Isis trying to kill the USA and give them $1000 a month food cloth and a place to live. I would take it if I was that kid wouldn't you?
US intentionally created ISIS when it’s not. A better question would be “Is the U.S. responsible for the creation of ISIS?” The answer would be indirectly because it was a series of mistakes made by the powers that be in both Iraq and the US that created fertile ground for this to happen but I’ll try to keep this short as to where they came from. I’ll also leave it as a general summary of what’s commonly agreed upon instead of detailing it as some of the more detailed answers either try to direct the reader to a certain line of thinking or is based off of conspiracy or hearsay. I also won’t go into whether or not Syria is the way it is because that’s a different subject and frankly. The events that lead to its civil war were already there and were going to happen anyway. It wouldn’t have mattered if a foreign power influenced it or not.
ISIS, ISIL, IS, Da’esh, whatever you want to call them these days, was not directly nor intentionally created by the US. IS is actually an evolution of the Islamic State of Iraq, which used to be called Al-Qaeda in Iraq or AQI. They were an extension of Al-Qaeda when they were stronger but not anymore. They got to where they are now because of the civil war in Syria and because al-Maliki kept pushing for sectarian policies that alienated Iraqi Sunni’s and Kurds but mostly the Sunni’s. Long story short, after transferring any and all US bases, out posts, facilities, airfields, etc. to the Iraqi’s (at Maliki’s request/demand,) the prisoners at various POW camps were released, including Camp Bucca. al-Baghdadi hooked back up with the ISI with new friends. Then ISI became ISIS when they allied with the FSA out of necessity to gain power and influence, then betrayed them and nearly annihilated the more secular elements of the FSA. Crushed or absorbed it’s more jihadist brigades, then went back to Iraq to conquer more territory.
On a side note, this is the second (and most successful) time they’ve attempted to establish a caliphate. The first time was during the Iraq War in 06. At the time they were called ISI and they tried to establish a caliphate by declaring Ramadi as their capitol. This lead to the Second Battle of Ramadi.
