Well lets see
1. Invade iraq , completely dismantle the country and leave it in ruins.
2 give billions of dollars to extremists in syria and spread false propaganda through channels like CNN ans BBC to create conflict which results in millions of deaths
3. Libya - need i say anything
Directly responsible for so many deaths and indirectly for deaths due to factors like starvation etc
So you destroyed their country killed their loved ones and u expect them just to stay silent . Some joined these extremists groups due to desperation and some due to hatred against usa.
I am not saying what ISIS are doing is right but one country s freedom fighter is another country s terrorist. I mean we all have seen the helicopter video that wikileaks leaked and how the CIA tortured the iraqi army and treated them like dogs . I absolute hate ISIS but what i hate even more is how the americans are always projected as the good guys. Through its invasion of Iraq. The Iraqi army got disbanded, many of whom joined ISIS. American-operated Iraq was where ISIS was born, and this was due to Saddam Hussein’s removal from power; don’t let any idiot tell you that it was Zarqawi who “created ISIS by himself,” nothing like that happens in this world, or the next.
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1. Invade iraq , completely dismantle the country and leave it in ruins.
2 give billions of dollars to extremists in syria and spread false propaganda through channels like CNN ans BBC to create conflict which results in millions of deaths
3. Libya - need i say anything
Directly responsible for so many deaths and indirectly for deaths due to factors like starvation etc
So you destroyed their country killed their loved ones and u expect them just to stay silent . Some joined these extremists groups due to desperation and some due to hatred against usa.
I am not saying what ISIS are doing is right but one country s freedom fighter is another country s terrorist. I mean we all have seen the helicopter video that wikileaks leaked and how the CIA tortured the iraqi army and treated them like dogs . I absolute hate ISIS but what i hate even more is how the americans are always projected as the good guys. Through its invasion of Iraq. The Iraqi army got disbanded, many of whom joined ISIS. American-operated Iraq was where ISIS was born, and this was due to Saddam Hussein’s removal from power; don’t let any idiot tell you that it was Zarqawi who “created ISIS by himself,” nothing like that happens in this world, or the next.
Some good content regarding the origin of ISIS is here already, but I won’t chase down or debunk some of their over-simplifications… giving a summary of ANYTHING to do with Islamic History can be ‘written-off’ as being ‘too simplistic’ … by ‘someone.’
But an in depth history of just who stepped upon whose toes… isn’t all that necessary; IF the West were to address all the issues and complaints, that exist in the Middle East… then ‘Islamic Extremism’ would continue.
Note: Islamic Extremism is NOT the same as Islam- the faith. For the former we are speaking to radical Ideology, and for the latter we are speaking to Religion(s)…plus 1.6 Billion followers. It’s extremely important to NOT confuse these two very distinct issues: political agendas, and religion.
The West at that time, and perhaps now, believes that IF these tribal factions were Democratically represented (within the artificial and poorly thought-out borders that contain the tribes) then they would discover some peace. Certainly too, in February of 2011, thousands of Muslims marched the streets of Cairo demanding a Democracy, so they too wish a Representative government… but even then… there would do NOTHING to stop the ongoing ‘flavor of the month’ terrorist groups that form ‘In the US; in the EU, or in the Middle East, such as ISIS.
But true enough, the failure of the elected (propped up perhaps) Iraqi leader to be truly inclusive in the U.S.’ sponsoring of a Democracy (which renewed the ongoing castigation of the largest single group of fundamentalist Sunni, and that cataylized the ISIS movement (a flavor of the year) to too easily recruit from the disenfranchised). But there have been group after group of previous ‘Islamic radicals’ going back to… Allah. (From the British point of view, Madison and Jefferson were radicals as well, so ‘radical’ is a relative term).. so now we have three groups to distinguish: Islamic Religion, Radical Islam, and Terrorist fanatics that simply wear Islamic religion like a taqiyah (hat).
If there were a key concept that needs be explored to understand the genesis of a terrorist, it would be simply ‘disenfranchised.’ A separated individual, poorly connected to a Faith, disillusioned by historic familial practices, and upon migrating into a more Western culture: becomes a stranger in a strange land, and poorly handled emigration has been a fertile ground for the disenfranchised.
The EU’s idea of multiculturalism is to allow, and encourage diversity, which means:separate. Separate ‘areas’, separate language, separate… and swallowing ‘British Culture’in Britain, or American Culture in the U.S. The easy denigration of former historic ‘heros’ which are now dismissed as ‘land grabbers,’ ‘slavers’ or racist (all true of course, but no reason for us to be embarassed by it TODAY. (You can’t fight asphalt streets if you live on one with your car, and you can’t ‘fight’ slavery when you -historically- swim in it). So: very little true integration is encouraged in the name of Politically Correct tolerance and multiculturalism, nor is a palate of ‘new beliefs and histories’ even proudly presented.
For the U.S., since less than 50 percent of the immigrants are on a legal road to citizenship, it’s more a ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ as the Politically Correct policy, for: neighbors, workers and schools. Instead of the U.S. or U.K. building a stronger identity or culture at home, they’ve pissed it away over the passed 50 years, in the name of multiculturalism.
The further apart the incoming cultures, the further the disenfranchisement. The disenfranchised among the ‘well tolerated’ youth of Hispanic or Muslim background find themselves angry, as they cannot identify with either Western or their family heritage culture in many cases.
Freedom of speech, religion and the expectation of equal treatment under the law, regardless of gender, race, or sexuality is the hallmark of the West, but that too is subordinated in keeping with Political Correctness and the tolerance of ‘diversity.’ I observed a Muslim woman being admonished by her male work-group peers for ‘showing too much skin (forearms actually)’, and these Muslim men therefore denied her use of the small Mosque on the company grounds. ‘Oh that’s horrible- going on in Middle East’ (someone said); NO! This was not in the EU or the Middle East, this was at a major chip manufacturer’ site just outside Portland Oregon!I don’t really know that ISIS was the creation(to destruction) by U.S. But i would rather say that terrorism was definitely created by U.S. As because during Cold War between America and Russia.There were not any major wars but some regional wars occur. It was U.S who wanted to attack on Russia but not by his name. So U.S decided to attack by the peoples of Afghanistan and nearby.U.S supported them by giving them weapons to them so that they can attack Russia.They used to help for anything.They were given money,food,weapons,drugs and many other things. So U.S created terror of which today ISIS is a major part in creating terror.But today (as we all know “Sometimes table turns”) America is also threatened by these Groups.
Much like Al Qaeda, the Islamic State (ISIS) is made-in-the-USA, an instrument of terror designed to divide and conquer the oil-rich Middle East and to counter Iran’s growing influence in the region.
The fact that the United States has a long and torrid history of backing terrorist groups will surprise only those who watch the news and ignore history.
The CIA first aligned itself with extremist Islam during the Cold War era. Back then, America saw the world in rather simple terms: on one side, the Soviet Union and Third World nationalism, which America regarded as a Soviet tool; on the other side, Western nations and militant political Islam, which America considered an ally in the struggle against the Soviet Union.
The director of the National Security Agency under Ronald Reagan, General William Odom recently remarked, “by any measure the U.S. has long used terrorism. In 1978-79 the Senate was trying to pass a law against international terrorism – in every version they produced, the lawyers said the U.S. would be in violation.”
During the 1970′s the CIA used the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt as a barrier, both to thwart Soviet expansion and prevent the spread of Marxist ideology among the Arab masses. The United States also openly supported Sarekat Islam against Sukarno in Indonesia, and supported the Jamaat-e-Islami terror group against Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto in Pakistan. Last but certainly not least, there is Al Qaeda.
Lest we forget, the CIA gave birth to Osama Bin Laden and breastfed his organization during the 1980′s. Former British Foreign Secretary, Robin Cook, told the House of Commons that Al Qaeda was unquestionably a product of Western intelligence agencies. Mr. Cook explained that Al Qaeda, which literally means an abbreviation of “the database” in Arabic, was originally the computer database of the thousands of Islamist extremists, who were trained by the CIA and funded by the Saudis, in order to defeat the Russians in Afghanistan.
America’s relationship with Al Qaeda has always been a love-hate affair. Depending on whether a particular Al Qaeda terrorist group in a given region furthers American interests or not, the U.S. State Department either funds or aggressively targets that terrorist group. Even as American foreign policy makers claim to oppose Muslim extremism, they knowingly foment it as a weapon of foreign policy.
The Islamic State is its latest weapon that, much like Al Qaeda, is certainly backfiring. ISIS recently rose to international prominence after its thugs began beheading American journalists. Now the terrorist group controls an area the size of the United Kingdom.
In order to understand why the Islamic State has grown and flourished so quickly, one has to take a look at the organization’s American-backed roots. The 2003 American invasion and occupation of Iraq created the pre-conditions for radical Sunni groups, like ISIS, to take root. America, rather unwisely, destroyed Saddam Hussein’s secular state machinery and replaced it with a predominantly Shiite administration. The U.S. occupation caused vast unemployment in Sunni areas, by rejecting socialism and closing down factories in the naive hope that the magical hand of the free market would create jobs. Under the new U.S.-backed Shiite regime, working class Sunni’s lost hundreds of thousands of jobs. Unlike the white Afrikaners in South Africa, who were allowed to keep their wealth after regime change, upper class Sunni’s were systematically dispossessed of their assets and lost their political influence. Rather than promoting religious integration and unity, American policy in Iraq exacerbated sectarian divisions and created a fertile breading ground for Sunni discontent, from which Al Qaeda in Iraq took root.
The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) used to have a different name: Al Qaeda in Iraq. After 2010 the group rebranded and refocused its efforts on Syria.
There are essentially three wars being waged in Syria: one between the government and the rebels, another between Iran and Saudi Arabia, and yet another between America and Russia. It is this third, neo-Cold War battle that made U.S. foreign policy makers decide to take the risk of arming Islamist rebels in Syria, because Syrian President, Bashar al-Assad, is a key Russian ally. Rather embarrassingly, many of these Syrian rebels have now turned out to be ISIS thugs, who are openly brandishing American-made M16 Assault rifles.
America’s Middle East policy revolves around oil and Israel. The invasion of Iraq has partially satisfied Washington’s thirst for oil, but ongoing air strikes in Syria and economic sanctions on Iran have everything to do with Israel. The goal is to deprive Israel’s neighboring enemies, Lebanon’s Hezbollah and Palestine’s Hamas, of crucial Syrian and Iranian support.
ISIS is not merely an instrument of terror used by America to topple the Syrian government; it is also used to put pressure on Iran.
The last time Iran invaded another nation was in 1738. Since independence in 1776, the U.S. has been engaged in over 53 military invasions and expeditions. Despite what the Western media’s war cries would have you believe, Iran is clearly not the threat to regional security, Washington is. An Intelligence Report published in 2012, endorsed by all sixteen U.S. intelligence agencies, confirms that Iran ended its nuclear weapons program in 2003. Truth is, any Iranian nuclear ambition, real or imagined, is as a result of American hostility towards Iran, and not the other way around.
America is using ISIS in three ways: to attack its enemies in the Middle East, to serve as a pretext for U.S. military intervention abroad, and at home to foment a manufactured domestic threat, used to justify the unprecedented expansion of invasive domestic surveillance.
By rapidly increasing both government secrecy and surveillance, Obama’s government is increasing its power to watch its citizens, while diminishing its citizens’ power to watch their government. Terrorism is an excuse to justify mass surveillance, in preparation for mass revolt.
The so-called “War on Terror” should be seen for what it really is: a pretext for maintaining a dangerously oversized U.S. military. The two most powerful groups in the U.S. foreign policy establishment are the Israel lobby, which directs U.S. Middle East policy, and the Military-Industrial-Compl
In fact, more than seventy American companies and individuals have won up to $27 billion in contracts for work in postwar Iraq and Afghanistan over the last three years, according to a recent study by the Center for Public Integrity. According to the study, nearly 75 per cent of these private companies had employees or board members, who either served in, or had close ties to, the executive branch of the Republican and Democratic administrations, members of Congress, or the highest levels of the military.
In 1997, a U.S. Department of Defense report stated, “the data show a strong correlation between U.S. involvement abroad and an increase in terrorist attacks against the U.S.” Truth is, the only way America can win the “War On Terror” is if it stops giving terrorists the motivation and the resources to attack America. Terrorism is the symptom; American imperialism in the Middle East is the cancer. Put simply, the War on Terror is terrorism; only, it is conducted on a much larger scale by people with jets and missiles.
